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Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  El Cabrito R*B on Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:17 pm

Ochoa isn't that good of a goalie, ive been saying this for quite some time. the only reason he's famous is because televisa is always advertising him.

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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  D!abl!to G aka Azulcrema on Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:31 pm

Typical Chivista comment. At least our golie isn't trying to look like Iker Casillas with the beard he has. If Ochoa wasn't a good golie then why is he with el Tri? Are you mad that Atlas beat you?


If he is overrated in what way is he? Is it because he is sponsored by a lot of companies so what, he is a good golie and better than Michel. But again you Chivistas can't go 1 day without talking about America.


Ochoa>>Michel


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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  [{©hÏVªš}]™ on Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:43 pm

D!abl!to G aka Azulcrema wrote:Odiame Mas Cabras

^^^what a fucking gay quote.....
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  Az-Tek on Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:22 pm

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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  El Cabrito R*B on Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:10 pm

you may deny it but look at the facts. Ochoa has advertisiments because people like him. Cirilo Saucedo had a WAY better season than Ochoa when he was in indios but he was never reallly talked about why? because Ochoa was taking the spotlight!

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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  El Cabrito R*B on Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:13 pm

remember when he got layed out vs cruz azul, how can you tell me that's not a mistake

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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  aguila_jalisco V!A on Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:20 pm

Quisieran ser como el todos los porteros

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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  AFP24 V!A on Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:25 pm

he is better than any golie in mexico easily
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  El Cabrito R*B on Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:45 pm

unbiastly this is my list of mexico's goalies:
1) moises munoz
2)Jonathan orozco
3)Oswaldo Sanchez
4)Cirilo Saucedo
5)Talavera
6)Villalpando
7)Chuy Corona
8)Luis Michel
9) Ochoa
10) oscar perez
11)Federico Vilar
12)Sergio Bernal
13)Adrian martinez
14)Barbossa (atlas)
15)cesar lozano
16)el de tecos
17)miguel calero
18)el de queretaro
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  [{©hÏVªš}]™ on Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:05 pm

El Cabrito R*B wrote:unbiastly this is my list of mexico's goalies:
1) moises munoz
2)Jonathan orozco
3)Oswaldo Sanchez
4)Cirilo Saucedo
5)Talavera
6)Villalpando
7)Chuy Corona
8)Luis Michel
9) Ochoa
10) oscar perez
11)Federico Vilar
12)Sergio Bernal
13)Adrian martinez
14)Barbossa (atlas)
15)cesar lozano
16)el de tecos
17)miguel calero
18)el de queretaro


Yo chillz with this list...oswaldo sanchez was the best goalie of the season hands down no questions asked!..how is munoz and orozco in front of ochoa and michel...worse how is talavera there????he just had one good game in the ligiulla...and corona hasn't really been that consistant since he went to cruz azul..this would be my list

1.oswaldo sanchez
2.michel
3.ochoa
4.munoz
5.corona
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  El Cabrito R*B on Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:08 pm

oswaldo was the best but i was just looking at goals received i still need to look up saves made
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  EZLN12 V!A on Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:12 pm

@At El Cabrito-
haha unbiased.. yea rite!! Ochoa at #9, no te pases.. All you guys are haters, lets suppose that "Mitchell" was the Keeper for El Tri.. DO YOU THINK HE DESERVE THE SPOT??
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  El Cabrito R*B on Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:15 pm

@EZLN12 V!A
honestly not yet, michel still needs some more improvement in the FK shots and positioning. corona is letting the fame get to his head.


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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  D!abl!to G aka Azulcrema on Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:34 pm

@El Cabrito.... like it or not Ochoa was the best golie not only did he play in the Gold Cup bur he also played in the WC Qualifiers. Also Ochoa missed 4 games in the Apertura. That's a lot of games played in a year. Les duele que Ochoa sea mejor que Michel.
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  El Cabrito R*B on Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:36 pm

@ D!abl!to G aka Azulcrema
the gold cup wasn't that intense and you know it. ni a corona le dieron oportunidad. they just put ochoa so more people buy tickets to go see him.
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  AFP24 V!A on Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:05 pm

unbiastly this is my list of mexico's goalies:
1) moises munoz
2)Jonathan orozco
3)Oswaldo Sanchez
4)Cirilo Saucedo
5)Talavera
6)Villalpando
7)Chuy Corona
8)Luis Michel
9) Ochoa
10) oscar perez
11)Federico Vilar
12)Sergio Bernal
13)Adrian martinez
14)Barbossa (atlas)
15)cesar lozano
16)el de tecos
17)miguel calero
18)el de queretaro

no mames if michel is better why isn't he in el tri?
if corona is better why is he ochoa's backup?
same goes for cirilo saucedo and villalpando why aren't they in el tri?
ochoa took oswaldo's spot that means he is better than him too
overall you cabras are just haters lmao
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  el tiro Loko!R*B on Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:22 pm

lets face it Ochoa isnt the same ochoa as when he bearly started.... i havent seen him play as good as way back.... Oswaldo did have a better season than him and so did corona. taking Cruz Azul to la final affraid
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  Az-Tek on Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:52 pm

he is still better, when they scored on him it was always 0-1 goals but when CA play, Corona always got scored like more 3 goals even puebla owned him with like a total of 6 goals, being a good goalie is about how many u save, Ochoa could keep a clean sheet and still not make it to the finals but some other weirdo that always got scored who made it to the final can play for Mexico?NO

Oswaldo sucks he tryes to scare the people and annd he moves too much and at the end he never even dives

Ochoa had one bad game so what

its the defense fault
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  D!abl!to G aka Azulcrema on Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:11 pm

@El Cabrito..... no sea mamon, Corona has had his chances and he blew them. So now Ochoa was put in El-Tri to sell tickets?? Neta stop talking out your ass. People don't go to see just one player but the whole team. And again who was the one who blocked a penalty so Mexico could go on to the final??

Ochoa is one of the best Golies in Mexico he's 24 and already the starter for Mexico, you wanna talk about who got scored on more?? Well Michel got scored on by more than 20+ goals in the Apertura. Oswaldo is past his prime sure he had a good season but doesn't he think he's the shit? Talking smack to players and then getting scored on and looks like a pendejo. If you wanna talk about the top 5 golies in Mexico and not basing them on 1 good season here they are.......


1. Ochoa


2. Orozco


3. Corona


4. Michel


5. Villalpando




Again he might be overrated to Chivistas but we can say the same thing about Michel. I see a lot of Chivestias calling Michel the Mexican Casillas.
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Post  [{©hÏVªš}]™ on Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:18 pm

So what if ochoa played the gold cup and the wcq...you know in the gold cup he bearly touched the ball the teams mexico played agaist never attacked they had all their team in the back ochoa wasn't really challanged or anything..but I do give him that he blocked that penalty he blocked agaist costa rica that's was the really only time where he shined...

Now in the world cup qualifiers it was the same thing...it was in the half of it already when memo came as titluar and were mostly home games..and you know in all the mexican home games everyone parks the bus...but what he had 1 or 2 blocks per game...not really much..so I don think he tri really would have a problem to qualified without him..

Think about how many times have you seen ochoa save a game for mexico that el tri could have lost if it wasn't for him besides the costa rica penalty????..
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  El Cabrito R*B on Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:42 pm

@ diablito g
i hate comparing mexicans to europeans, it makes us look lesser.
i already told you the reason ochoa is titular. mercadotecnia. Oswaldo had a better season and he wasn't called up once. corona honestly blew it yet he is still being called up, why?
michel was gonna be called up by eriksson but he got injured right before.
oswaldo had a good season he stopped 3+ pk's that were harder to block than some tico's shot.
saucedo should have gotten called up in 08, now he doesn't have the same level.
villalpando has been regularly playing good.
i think orozco is just going through a phase, he's still young and we will have to see what happens.
nobody talked about bernal when he was champion, he was never even considered.
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  D!abl!to G aka Azulcrema on Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:01 am

@El Cabrito...... You base a golie based on a season right? Eriksson knew nothing about Mexico Futbol and dint Oswaldo cost games for Mexico? Oswaldo is a greedy golie he was the one who said if he wasn't a starter for Mexico he wouldn't play. And the reason he is not called up is because he doesn't fit in Aguirres plans. Same can be said about Pardo. Oswaldo needs to hang his boots for El-Tri and just focus on Santos.


As much as you want to say Ochoa is overrated he has talent. And Ochoa has patiently waited for his chance in El-Tri since 04.

What I see is you base a player because of 1 season? So you want to also call Aldo De Nigris? He had 1 good season and now people want him with El-Tri but many people know b4 last season he sucked and Monterrey fans booed him and wanted him out.
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  El Cabrito R*B on Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:30 pm

@ diablito azulcrema
whatever ochoa has been waiting for, corona has waited longer, hes had less appearences than ochoa. im not saying ochoa doesnt have talent, im just saying he's overrated, young, and somewhat arrogant.
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  El Chivazteka on Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:04 pm

D!abl!to G aka Azulcrema wrote:Typical Chivista comment. At least our golie isn't trying to look like Iker Casillas with the beard he has. If Ochoa wasn't a good golie then why is he with el Tri? Are you mad that Atlas beat you?


If he is overrated in what way is he? Is it because he is sponsored by a lot of companies so what, he is a good golie and better than Michel. But again you Chivistas can't go 1 day without talking about America.


Ochoa>>Michel


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Wila ardida. Who is talking about Chivas or America. I saw no one hating on america before this quote. You like to act the victim. Stop putting words in other peoples mouth. THis argument is on STRICTLY goalies. NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR PRECIOUS WILAS. PROVE ME wrong. Unbiased Oswaldo tiene huevos, and is still a great goalie. IF it hadnt been for oswaldo, that game vs USA in february would have been worse, yeah he did that fatal error but it happens to the best. Michel tryin to be like Casillas cuz of the beard? haha no mames, wila ya ni sabes que decir.

Orozco had a great liguilla. Saucedo is a good solid goalie and so is munoz. Even villalpando is great. En puebla, hay hombres no nombres. Nd thats fact. If these three goalies had even half the publicity Memin has, They would be considered prodigies. Prove me wrong wila.
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Re: Memo Ochoa overrated

Post  D!abl!to G aka Azulcrema on Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:57 pm

@Chivasteka..... Again I see you Cabras base a golie or a player on 1 good season they have. And please it has been more games that Oswaldo cost games for Mexico, Oswaldo is a selfish player who always eats his own words cuando le meten Goles. No doubt that Villalpando and Orozco are good golies and no one can't deny that. But don't you think if they were as good as you say they would be in the big 4 of Mexico?? Like I said I don't know why People say Ochoa doesn't deserve to be golie for Mexico if he has proven to be a solid golie for Mexico. Aguirre chose him for a reson dint he Cabra? I aint hating on no Chivas but its funny that its mostly Cabras saying Ochoa shouldn't golie for Mexico.
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